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How to use the conspiracy an sepr together? (10 posts)

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  • Profile picture of QuentinB QuentinB said 3 months, 1 week ago ago:

    Hello all,

    Just purchased the guitar conspiracy and the sepr workbook. How exactly should I use these in conjunction?

    Cheers

  • Profile picture of QuentinB QuentinB said 3 months, 1 week ago ago:

    Well I think I should state that I’m lost with trying to find structure to the learning method here.

  • Profile picture of QuentinB QuentinB said 3 months, 1 week ago ago:

    Also, lol I’m being annoying at this point probably, should I do all the beginning spiders first in the sepr then move on to the next beginning topic or should I concentrate on one spider until my bpms are up and more time on other beginning topics in the workbook?

  • Profile picture of Stevo Stevo said 3 months, 1 week ago ago:

    You are on the right track, as one user of the material to another, there is a lot of stuff in the references, as you indicate use spiders to start building you finger strength and dexterity, pick a couple topics from the text which build on what you may already know. Even if its a simple melody or chord pattern you already know and work on seeing how it applies to it all. Continue to ask questions and be patient.

    Best of Luck,

    Stevo

  • Profile picture of jonnys777 jonnys777 said 3 months, 1 week ago ago:

    I’m thinking that you’re frustrated because there is no set lesson pattern – there’s no “Step One – Do whatever”, but I find that sort of stucture unhelpful when learning guitar. The exercises at each level are (mostly) equally important.

    What you need to do is practice everything from a particular section, or pick out a few things from a section that you feel you need to practice the most. For example, when I was a fresh-out-the-blocks beginner I spent most of my time practicing spyders and chords. That isn’t to say I neglected ear training, Rhythm exercises or Chord Progression exercises though. When I was comfortable I practiced some of the songs.

    This blog series (http://spytunes.com/category/beginner) was released after I’d finished beginner, but it’s very good if you are working on Beginner!

    Also, the general usage of the material is:

    Conspiracy: EXPLAINS how music works on the guitar.
    Online Exercises (http://spytunes.com/practice-guitar): Teach you to APPLY music on guitar.
    SEPR: Keeps TRACK of your progress.

  • Profile picture of jonnys777 jonnys777 said 3 months, 1 week ago ago:

    P.S. A one hour sample routine for beginner might look something like this:

    - 20 Minutes of Spyders
    - 20 Minutes of Chords
    - 20 Minutes of Rhythm Exercises

    Of course, you should also be spending time trying to understand material in the Conspiracy – stick to material from your difficulty level in general, but there’s no harm in reading the whole thing!

    Guru’s “Guitar in 10 minutes” series is also extremely helpful when looking at the “big picture”.

    is the Beginner One (i.e. Part One).

  • Profile picture of Guru Guru said 3 months, 1 week ago ago:

    Also, I made this for anyone who wants structure:

    http://spytunes.com/news/free-18-week-beginner-guitar-course

  • Profile picture of QuentinB QuentinB said 3 months, 1 week ago ago:

    Thanks to Jonathan and Guru ! It’s mostly a little frustrating for me because deciding to use the spytunes method takes some pushing myself. I’m not a super beginner but I feel for some reason there is something in this method that will help me develop my ear and muscles better. I originally came to spytunes for the finger-style lessons I found by accident. Then I realized theres a lot more here.

    It’s a tough decision to make, almost starting from scratch again :D but if it will make me tons better, I’ve got no qualms with that. I’m thinking to print out the pdf’s, make it easier to read.

  • Profile picture of QuentinB QuentinB said 3 months, 1 week ago ago:

    I kind of feel for the beginning ear training, there isn’t enough info. Unless that is, I didn’t pick something up in the conspiracy pdf. We are given mp3 files to listen to, so we can pick out intervals, but what if your ear is so bad you can’t pick out what that first note is that’s being played? Like, what if a person can’t figure out what key. Knowing the key, for a beginner at least, would give you an idea of where your heading. That is, since you seem to be counting upwards in the intervals.

    On another note, hearing the first note, then trying to find it on the guitar will work just the same. However, there isn’t even a mention of trying to do that to know where your start position should be. Although this may be common sense to someone, it may not be to someone else :(

  • Profile picture of Guru Guru said 3 months, 1 week ago ago:

    I’ve left all that out on purpose actually, it’s much better that you focus on learning the intervals on the actual guitar.

    The ear will connect later automatically if you know what the intervals are on the neck.

    Ear training in general is extremely over rated, to be honest there is only one way that works for that.

    The only way is sight singing.

    One day I might do some of that stuff but I’m not sure, at the end of the day it’s only what you can do on guitar that matters to guitar :)